inkswamp
Apr 15, 02:16 AM
I believe that it isn't suggesting anything at all. When you go to list the devices that your application is compatible with, that is likely just an exposed extra field for if you wanted to include another device that is capable. It is in my opinion, nothing but a little bug. (Though emulating iOS apps om my Mac would be cool :P)
That's what I'm thinking. I bet the code that generates that list of devices was just cut and pasted from somewhere else and someone got an extra one in there with this mysterious ix.Mac... thing in place as boilerplate code. I bet it means nothing.
However, if I were told it was indeed a new device and had to take a guess, I'd say it's becoming more and more likely that Apple is going to try to leverage the popularity of iOS to sell more laptops. Imagine a laptop with a touch screen that somehow could lay down flat and switch into an iOS mode, not emulated, but the real thing. Basically, it would be a laptop that could convert into an iPad. I can imagine a lot of interest in a single device that can run both OS X and iOS.
That's what I'm thinking. I bet the code that generates that list of devices was just cut and pasted from somewhere else and someone got an extra one in there with this mysterious ix.Mac... thing in place as boilerplate code. I bet it means nothing.
However, if I were told it was indeed a new device and had to take a guess, I'd say it's becoming more and more likely that Apple is going to try to leverage the popularity of iOS to sell more laptops. Imagine a laptop with a touch screen that somehow could lay down flat and switch into an iOS mode, not emulated, but the real thing. Basically, it would be a laptop that could convert into an iPad. I can imagine a lot of interest in a single device that can run both OS X and iOS.
Mystikal
Mar 15, 08:33 AM
Line at the Spectrum is now at about 20 people.
Fashion Island slowly growing. If you're thinking of coming down you may as well. Were friendly :).
Fashion Island slowly growing. If you're thinking of coming down you may as well. Were friendly :).
SactoGuy18
May 1, 11:16 PM
CIA (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/source-al-qaida-head-bin-laden-dead-us-in-possession-of-body-obama-to-speak-sunday-night/2011/05/01/AF1D5hVF_story.html?hpid=z1) operation apparently.
The whole operation sounds like something the fictional Clark and Chavez leading a very small Rainbow Six unit from a Tom Clancy novel would do. :)
The whole operation sounds like something the fictional Clark and Chavez leading a very small Rainbow Six unit from a Tom Clancy novel would do. :)
Bubba Satori
Mar 31, 12:58 PM
Um, whats up with the brown turd toolbar? :eek:
Well, it's a thin and sleek iTurd. Magic.
Well, it's a thin and sleek iTurd. Magic.
Lord Sam
Jan 26, 07:25 AM
There are many reasons for this. The crowd of Apple lovers wanted more from Macworld than what they got, and the market has been terrible lately. Their second quarter revenue predictions were very conservative, and some people think they have shone the brightest they will ever, and just don't think their worth it. I disagree, but as much as I would like to be, I'm not the stock market.
smiddlehurst
May 3, 08:14 AM
Well just pulled the trigger on my first iMac. Thank god for education discounts, over �300 saving in the end.
Very happy with the refresh, pretty much exactly what I'd expected. Only real downer was the lack of i7 as standard but, frankly, I don't need it for what I'm going to use it for so the 27" with 3.1Ghz i5 and 2Gb of graphics memory is more than good enough. Would have liked to see a HDMI input but oh well, does anyone know if there's any easy (and preferably cheap) adaptor out there to do HDMI > Thunderbolt / Mini Display port?
Oh, and bit of a bummer that it's showing the 11th of May as the delivery date too, ah well, gives me time to sort out a desk to put it on next weekend :D
Very happy with the refresh, pretty much exactly what I'd expected. Only real downer was the lack of i7 as standard but, frankly, I don't need it for what I'm going to use it for so the 27" with 3.1Ghz i5 and 2Gb of graphics memory is more than good enough. Would have liked to see a HDMI input but oh well, does anyone know if there's any easy (and preferably cheap) adaptor out there to do HDMI > Thunderbolt / Mini Display port?
Oh, and bit of a bummer that it's showing the 11th of May as the delivery date too, ah well, gives me time to sort out a desk to put it on next weekend :D
trainguy77
Nov 23, 09:45 PM
Nope, I haven't either :mad:
yeah, but i still haven't gotten my points back yet
I think they will come either this last update or the next one. As if you look at the hourly graphs for any team a huge spike existed for the last hour. This is probably stanford processing log files. It may take time for them all to be processed.
yeah, but i still haven't gotten my points back yet
I think they will come either this last update or the next one. As if you look at the hourly graphs for any team a huge spike existed for the last hour. This is probably stanford processing log files. It may take time for them all to be processed.
jtara
Apr 14, 11:14 AM
Interesting possibility. It would be extremely difficult to emulate a complete iOS device (custom ASICs and all). But Apple could emulate just enough ARM instructions to emulate an app that was compiled by Xcode & LLVM (which would limit the way ARM instructions were generated), and used only legal public iOS APIs (instead of emulating hardware and all the registers), which could be translated in Cocoa APIs to display on a Mac OS X machine.
There's no need to emulate ARM instructions, though. And they already do emulate all of the complete iOS devices, at least sufficiently to run iOS apps on OSX.
Apple provides developers with a complete emulation package for testing their iOS apps on OSX. Apps are cross-compiled to x86 code. They also provide the complete set of iOS SDKs, cross-compiled to X86 code.
An emulator handles the device hardware - touchscreen, display, sound system, GPS (REALLY simple emulation - it's always sunny in Mountain View...), etc. If an iPhone or iPad are attached via USB cable, the emulator can even use the accelerometer and gyroscope in the device. Obviously, this could be easily changed to use some new peripheral device.
Other than device emulation, the apps suffer no loss of speed, since they are running native x86 code. In fact, they run considerably faster (ignoring, for this discussion, device emulation) than then do on an actual iOS device.
All Apple would need to give consumers the ability to run iOS apps on their Macs would be to provide them with the emulator (or, more likely, integrate it into the OSX desktop. I think end-users would find the picture of an iPhone or iPad that the emulator draws around the "screen" cute for a couple of days, but then quickly tire of it...), and add an additional target for developers.
What we've seen certainly seems to suggest that's what this is. HOWEVER:
1. For a single app to be compatible with both ARM and x86, they would need to introduce a "fat binary" similar to what they did with the transition from PowerPC to x86. This would bloat apps that are compatible with both to double their current download size. Current Universal (iPhone/iPad) apps are NOT fat binaries. They have multiple sets of resources (images, screen layouts, etc.) and the code needs to have multiple behaviors depending on the device. i.e. the code has to check "is this an iPad? If so do this...
Currently, developers have to create separate binaries for use on the emulator or the actual device.
2. Several developers have checked-in here to say that their apps are listed this way. None have offered that they had any advance knowledge of this, or did anything to make it happen. If this is about ARM/x86 fat binaries, the developer would have had to build their app that way. And even if it didn't require a re-build, I think it's highly unlikely that Apple would start selling apps on a new platform without letting the developers know!
3. Apple is *reasonably* fair about giving all developers access to new technology at the same time. They also generally make a public announcement at the same time as making beta SDKs available to developers. (Though the public announcement may be limited in scope and vague.) There are so many developers, that despite confidentiality agreements, most of the details get out to the public pretty quickly, though perhaps in muddled form. While Apple DOES hand-pick developers for early-early access, it's typically not THAT early. A few weeks, max.
I do think that an x86 target for iOS apps is inevitable. Just not imminent.
My best guess is that this was a screw-up by the web-site developers. Perhaps they did a mockup of the app store for the marketing people, selected some apps or app categories that seemed likely candidates, and slipped-up and it went live on the real app store.
There's no need to emulate ARM instructions, though. And they already do emulate all of the complete iOS devices, at least sufficiently to run iOS apps on OSX.
Apple provides developers with a complete emulation package for testing their iOS apps on OSX. Apps are cross-compiled to x86 code. They also provide the complete set of iOS SDKs, cross-compiled to X86 code.
An emulator handles the device hardware - touchscreen, display, sound system, GPS (REALLY simple emulation - it's always sunny in Mountain View...), etc. If an iPhone or iPad are attached via USB cable, the emulator can even use the accelerometer and gyroscope in the device. Obviously, this could be easily changed to use some new peripheral device.
Other than device emulation, the apps suffer no loss of speed, since they are running native x86 code. In fact, they run considerably faster (ignoring, for this discussion, device emulation) than then do on an actual iOS device.
All Apple would need to give consumers the ability to run iOS apps on their Macs would be to provide them with the emulator (or, more likely, integrate it into the OSX desktop. I think end-users would find the picture of an iPhone or iPad that the emulator draws around the "screen" cute for a couple of days, but then quickly tire of it...), and add an additional target for developers.
What we've seen certainly seems to suggest that's what this is. HOWEVER:
1. For a single app to be compatible with both ARM and x86, they would need to introduce a "fat binary" similar to what they did with the transition from PowerPC to x86. This would bloat apps that are compatible with both to double their current download size. Current Universal (iPhone/iPad) apps are NOT fat binaries. They have multiple sets of resources (images, screen layouts, etc.) and the code needs to have multiple behaviors depending on the device. i.e. the code has to check "is this an iPad? If so do this...
Currently, developers have to create separate binaries for use on the emulator or the actual device.
2. Several developers have checked-in here to say that their apps are listed this way. None have offered that they had any advance knowledge of this, or did anything to make it happen. If this is about ARM/x86 fat binaries, the developer would have had to build their app that way. And even if it didn't require a re-build, I think it's highly unlikely that Apple would start selling apps on a new platform without letting the developers know!
3. Apple is *reasonably* fair about giving all developers access to new technology at the same time. They also generally make a public announcement at the same time as making beta SDKs available to developers. (Though the public announcement may be limited in scope and vague.) There are so many developers, that despite confidentiality agreements, most of the details get out to the public pretty quickly, though perhaps in muddled form. While Apple DOES hand-pick developers for early-early access, it's typically not THAT early. A few weeks, max.
I do think that an x86 target for iOS apps is inevitable. Just not imminent.
My best guess is that this was a screw-up by the web-site developers. Perhaps they did a mockup of the app store for the marketing people, selected some apps or app categories that seemed likely candidates, and slipped-up and it went live on the real app store.
The Final Cut
Apr 28, 04:41 PM
lol @ everyone that waited for the white iphone...
maclaptop
Apr 29, 03:00 PM
Oooh things are heating up :D
I'm not gonna buy music from Amazon again though, I downloaded 1 song for my Dad once from there. Because iTunes didn't have it, and Amazon emailed me for weeks with spam.
Oh hell yeah, I just loaded up with a bunch of my favorites, Thanks Amazon!
I buy lots of stuff from Amazon, without a single problem with spam. No tax, no hassle, just a terrific place to do business.
Amazon has been my favorite for years. :)
I'm not gonna buy music from Amazon again though, I downloaded 1 song for my Dad once from there. Because iTunes didn't have it, and Amazon emailed me for weeks with spam.
Oh hell yeah, I just loaded up with a bunch of my favorites, Thanks Amazon!
I buy lots of stuff from Amazon, without a single problem with spam. No tax, no hassle, just a terrific place to do business.
Amazon has been my favorite for years. :)
iJohnHenry
Feb 1, 07:57 AM
What a team player.
300 people sitting on their hands, while he 'plays'.
Charming.
300 people sitting on their hands, while he 'plays'.
Charming.
maconservative
Apr 22, 05:21 PM
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Fugly
That is all.
Fugly
That is all.
puma1552
Nov 15, 05:48 PM
Yeah, I don't get all the "OMG $250 on a jumper". Seriously, I assume you guys have never shopped in Burberry, Paul Smith, D&G etc...
That Panerai watch looks awesome.
:apple:
It's the fact that while well made, it's pretty much a waste of money because clothes are a consumable.
Unlike something like a nice watch that will last for years and years, a shirt loses it's form and fades a bit after 1-2 years, at which point it's pretty much junk.
That Panerai watch looks awesome.
:apple:
It's the fact that while well made, it's pretty much a waste of money because clothes are a consumable.
Unlike something like a nice watch that will last for years and years, a shirt loses it's form and fades a bit after 1-2 years, at which point it's pretty much junk.
Squonk
Oct 24, 09:15 AM
You're not the designer of the latest generation of BMW's are you, cause I've got a bone to pick with you. :)
I was wondering the same thing about this user... :mad:
I was wondering the same thing about this user... :mad:
Orme
May 2, 12:43 PM
I really hope that it comes tomorrow as my apple store credit card is on fire waiting to be spent. ;) however @dpdesilva on twitter is rumoring that apple will delay imac refresh due to leaks and rumors being overshadowed by Bin Laden's Death. Personally I think it might be B.S. I care more about my Imac than the story of his death.
Sounds like a load of bs to me.. someone is fame hungry.. Why would the news of Osama's death overshadow rumors/leaks of the new iMac.. they are both on totally different scales and subjects. One is world breaking news.. one is not and I don't see how it's going to stop people like me from being worried about other things like my life, daily routine and this iMac that I want ever so desperately..
[Edit] and if it's true that the refresh is going to be delayed because of Osama's death.. THEY'RE SO LETTING HIM WIN!! :mad::mad::mad:
Sounds like a load of bs to me.. someone is fame hungry.. Why would the news of Osama's death overshadow rumors/leaks of the new iMac.. they are both on totally different scales and subjects. One is world breaking news.. one is not and I don't see how it's going to stop people like me from being worried about other things like my life, daily routine and this iMac that I want ever so desperately..
[Edit] and if it's true that the refresh is going to be delayed because of Osama's death.. THEY'RE SO LETTING HIM WIN!! :mad::mad::mad:
appleguy123
Apr 25, 08:27 PM
After this post, I can�t even think straight.
I agree. Gay lapdances are looking pretty aPpealing when the alternative is that overpriced.
I agree. Gay lapdances are looking pretty aPpealing when the alternative is that overpriced.
trainguy77
Oct 14, 11:37 PM
We moved up a rank today some how. :eek: As well the number of active users is increasing. I kind of think us talking about it here seems to be helping! I might just set my signature back to something about folding tomorrow at some point.
nimbusthegreat
Apr 15, 03:21 PM
Well Apple has used up all the "big cat" names like Tiger and Lion which means that either OS 11 is underway or they will be in the embarassing situation of having to use lesser cat names which imply "less".
Ocelot, Cheetah, Cougar, Fluffy,
so 10.8 might be cougar. but if so the system requirements will make it only run on older hardware.....
Ocelot, Cheetah, Cougar, Fluffy,
so 10.8 might be cougar. but if so the system requirements will make it only run on older hardware.....
Xavier
Sep 13, 02:43 PM
I just bought 2 woofers replacements from HUMAN Speakers to replace the blown ones on my Epicure 150's
http://www.humanspeakers.com/e/parts/images/001-angle.jpg
Rebuilding these:
http://www.humanspeakers.com/e/images/epi150.jpg
Next is the tweeters then the cabling to xlr
http://www.humanspeakers.com/e/parts/images/001-angle.jpg
Rebuilding these:
http://www.humanspeakers.com/e/images/epi150.jpg
Next is the tweeters then the cabling to xlr
RodThePlod
Jul 21, 04:29 PM
http://www.comingzune.com/
One question, what is he doing to that rabbit? :eek:
What a strange clip!
Hehehehehe... when I was watching that I thought the rabbit was gonna spin around and eat the little guy!
Kinda like Microsoft were the big guy and Apple were the lil' guy...
Hmmmm.....
RodC
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www.expodition.com - for iPod users who love to travel
One question, what is he doing to that rabbit? :eek:
What a strange clip!
Hehehehehe... when I was watching that I thought the rabbit was gonna spin around and eat the little guy!
Kinda like Microsoft were the big guy and Apple were the lil' guy...
Hmmmm.....
RodC
--
www.expodition.com - for iPod users who love to travel
southernpaws
Apr 23, 11:35 AM
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You enjoy seeing every issue from the perspective of someone who wants Apple to fail.
Apple cares very deeply about their product, which is why they don't give in to every spec junkie who demands the latest and greatest immediately. The current chips don't give a usable battery life in Apple's eyes. If you want to get a phone that eats batteries that's your business, but Apple doesn't have an interest in developing anything like that.
Nope. I see every issue from the consumer perspective - as I should (being a consumer). Any other perspective would be an abomination (unless for those who hold tons of AAPL shares).
Phrases like "in Apple's eyes" is a good example of what I am talking about. Apple does not use iPhones, consumers do. Consumer eyse are the only eyes that matter. And that is exactly why people are switching to Android. If Apple cares more about what they think is right than what I think is right (for me) it would be stupid for me to care about what Apple thinks or does.
They would still have to use two chips as I understand it: one to support CDMA and then the other to support LTE.
I doubt that but even if that was the case then what? Every other phone manufacturer on the planet can design a phone that has LTE and Apple could not? Because they spend on R&D much less than any other hi-tech company of comparable size?
And there we have it friends! This guy has no clue what he's talking about. There are no hybrid LTE/3G chips available yet, so the multiple chips thing has nothing to do with GSM/CDMA. If Apple wanted to support 3G AND LTE which they would have to do considering how scarce LTE is at the moment, the only way for them to do it is to use two chips. Battery life would drain.
Here's a site for you to consider: Thunderbolt Battery Life (http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/03/18/htc-thunderbolt-battery-life/)
This is what people are talking about when they say the iPhone's battery life would be horrible. It has nothing to do with a hybrid CDMA/GSM chip, and has everything to do with the lack of a hybrid 3G/LTE chip.
In fact, hybrid CDMA/GSM chips exist, and are already being used by Apple.
You miss the point. I did not investigate the details about the number of chips. Not everyone cares. The point here is that there many people who want LTE and the there is Apple with their "single phone fits all" strategy. Here is a piece of relevant information for you from Information Week:
"In its recently quarterly earnings report, Verizon Wireless noted that more than 500,000 customers signed up for LTE services and/or devices during its most recent quarter. Add that to the 65,000 who signed up in December, and Verizon has about 565,000 people using its next-generation wireless network. At this rate, Verizon may have more than 2 million 4G users by the end of the year.
Of the 500,000 who signed up for 4G services this quarter, more than half (260,000) chose a 4G phone--the HTC Thunderbolt--that went on sale in mid-March. It scored a significant number of customers in its first two weeks of availability. That means between January 1 and March 15, about 240,000 people purchased other 4G devices, such as USB modems."
As you can see 260K people bought HTC Thunderbolt since Verizon started selling them (about a month). This translates to about 3 million phones annually. Clearly the demand is there. Also, you keep forgetting that other phones have swappable batteries.
Unfortunately, you don't see everything from your so called consumer perspective. Millions of people own iPhones, and it's not like they had no choice. Apple does a fine job of listening to the majority of consumers. Just not you
You enjoy seeing every issue from the perspective of someone who wants Apple to fail.
Apple cares very deeply about their product, which is why they don't give in to every spec junkie who demands the latest and greatest immediately. The current chips don't give a usable battery life in Apple's eyes. If you want to get a phone that eats batteries that's your business, but Apple doesn't have an interest in developing anything like that.
Nope. I see every issue from the consumer perspective - as I should (being a consumer). Any other perspective would be an abomination (unless for those who hold tons of AAPL shares).
Phrases like "in Apple's eyes" is a good example of what I am talking about. Apple does not use iPhones, consumers do. Consumer eyse are the only eyes that matter. And that is exactly why people are switching to Android. If Apple cares more about what they think is right than what I think is right (for me) it would be stupid for me to care about what Apple thinks or does.
They would still have to use two chips as I understand it: one to support CDMA and then the other to support LTE.
I doubt that but even if that was the case then what? Every other phone manufacturer on the planet can design a phone that has LTE and Apple could not? Because they spend on R&D much less than any other hi-tech company of comparable size?
And there we have it friends! This guy has no clue what he's talking about. There are no hybrid LTE/3G chips available yet, so the multiple chips thing has nothing to do with GSM/CDMA. If Apple wanted to support 3G AND LTE which they would have to do considering how scarce LTE is at the moment, the only way for them to do it is to use two chips. Battery life would drain.
Here's a site for you to consider: Thunderbolt Battery Life (http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/03/18/htc-thunderbolt-battery-life/)
This is what people are talking about when they say the iPhone's battery life would be horrible. It has nothing to do with a hybrid CDMA/GSM chip, and has everything to do with the lack of a hybrid 3G/LTE chip.
In fact, hybrid CDMA/GSM chips exist, and are already being used by Apple.
You miss the point. I did not investigate the details about the number of chips. Not everyone cares. The point here is that there many people who want LTE and the there is Apple with their "single phone fits all" strategy. Here is a piece of relevant information for you from Information Week:
"In its recently quarterly earnings report, Verizon Wireless noted that more than 500,000 customers signed up for LTE services and/or devices during its most recent quarter. Add that to the 65,000 who signed up in December, and Verizon has about 565,000 people using its next-generation wireless network. At this rate, Verizon may have more than 2 million 4G users by the end of the year.
Of the 500,000 who signed up for 4G services this quarter, more than half (260,000) chose a 4G phone--the HTC Thunderbolt--that went on sale in mid-March. It scored a significant number of customers in its first two weeks of availability. That means between January 1 and March 15, about 240,000 people purchased other 4G devices, such as USB modems."
As you can see 260K people bought HTC Thunderbolt since Verizon started selling them (about a month). This translates to about 3 million phones annually. Clearly the demand is there. Also, you keep forgetting that other phones have swappable batteries.
Unfortunately, you don't see everything from your so called consumer perspective. Millions of people own iPhones, and it's not like they had no choice. Apple does a fine job of listening to the majority of consumers. Just not you
ChrisA
Nov 4, 12:17 PM
I use "VMWare Server" It runs on both Windows and Linux. Here is how it works: First I bring up a console window. THen I "connect" to a physical machine. Either the one I'm using or some other one on the network. Then I can "Power On" a Virtual machine. On power on I see the BIOS counting up memory and then booting off the boot device and finally it loads an OS. What this means, it that you have a set on physical machines and a set of virtual machines and the virtual machines can run on any of the physical machines and can eve be moved around. And all the displays are sent back to you workstation where you can tab between them. Another neat feature is the abilty to "snapshot" a VM. You ckick on "snapshoot" before you do something you might regret say you want to install some spyware thing just to see what it does. OK now you've seen it so you click "restore" and the computer is put back into the state of when it was snapshoted.
VMWare pioneered this whole ideal and has by for the best products. And so of them are free. If you have a Windows or Linux system go get VMware Server right now.
VMWare pioneered this whole ideal and has by for the best products. And so of them are free. If you have a Windows or Linux system go get VMware Server right now.
Ann P
Jan 30, 10:40 PM
Dozens of flower arrangement and apple cider in celebration of Chinese New Year. :)
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3024/photo2ea.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9356/photo4tef.jpg
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Krafty
Jan 28, 01:26 AM
Why? I'd love to buy some Beats headphones. Like the style of it.
For some reason I overlooked the Phillips, I was looking for something the hooked around my ear with an iPod Control (in-ears fall out too easy). I asked around and the Powerbeats and B&O were something people recommended (my iPhone earphones were dying). The mistake was asking on a gaming forum, really, and so after selling some things, I went and blew $160.
Upon day one, the sound is nice, although I'm not an audiophile, I didn't want to purchase the Apple headphones because they DID sound bad. Upon 30 minutes into listening, it felt like someone took a razorblade to the back and inside of my ears; they were god uncomfortable. I tried giving it a few more days and seeing maybe they would stretch or so, but I couldn't enjoy the music because they were pinching my ears so much.
Even then, at least 2 days after purchase, I caught a glimpse of me asking myself "....did I really just pay $160 for a pair of headphones 'made' by a celebrity?" I use earbuds for my iPhone when listening to public where I may need to hear something or turn them down, and using the microphone even on the Apple earbuds were a great help. When I want to distant myself from the earth when by myself, I always have been a fan of Sonys Street Style MDR-G45LP (http://www.jr.com/sony/pe/SON_MDRG45LP/). I've purchased these headphones for my iPod specifically since middle school, and for $14-20, its was good enough and loud enough (I think since middle school I've been through 20+ pairs). I've stopped using them in public because everyone kept getting mad when they would call my name. Frequently, setting my stuff down and taking them off was followed by a slap in the back of the head and my friend screaming "YOU MADE ME LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT! I WAS SCREAMING YOUR NAME FROM ACROSS THE HUB (my college's version of a "cafeteria"), DID YOU NOT HEAR ME?!"
(Apparently I didn't after the second yell).
Did another search and the Phillips had the same style with the remote (dont know why I didn't see it before). So I got those + $108 back.
I was curious about the Bang & Olufsen Earbud 3's (http://www.amazon.com/Bang-Olufsen-Headset-Microphone-Compatible/dp/B0015HROMY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top) but they're $200 and not sold in stores (or any around me) so I would have at least want to be able to return them if I didn't like it.
Anyways, thats my story, and the Phillips are great so far. I wasn't looking for anything top line, and I guess I was just putting my foot in the mainstream end of the pool, but its true: Beats are just not worth it. For me.
For some reason I overlooked the Phillips, I was looking for something the hooked around my ear with an iPod Control (in-ears fall out too easy). I asked around and the Powerbeats and B&O were something people recommended (my iPhone earphones were dying). The mistake was asking on a gaming forum, really, and so after selling some things, I went and blew $160.
Upon day one, the sound is nice, although I'm not an audiophile, I didn't want to purchase the Apple headphones because they DID sound bad. Upon 30 minutes into listening, it felt like someone took a razorblade to the back and inside of my ears; they were god uncomfortable. I tried giving it a few more days and seeing maybe they would stretch or so, but I couldn't enjoy the music because they were pinching my ears so much.
Even then, at least 2 days after purchase, I caught a glimpse of me asking myself "....did I really just pay $160 for a pair of headphones 'made' by a celebrity?" I use earbuds for my iPhone when listening to public where I may need to hear something or turn them down, and using the microphone even on the Apple earbuds were a great help. When I want to distant myself from the earth when by myself, I always have been a fan of Sonys Street Style MDR-G45LP (http://www.jr.com/sony/pe/SON_MDRG45LP/). I've purchased these headphones for my iPod specifically since middle school, and for $14-20, its was good enough and loud enough (I think since middle school I've been through 20+ pairs). I've stopped using them in public because everyone kept getting mad when they would call my name. Frequently, setting my stuff down and taking them off was followed by a slap in the back of the head and my friend screaming "YOU MADE ME LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT! I WAS SCREAMING YOUR NAME FROM ACROSS THE HUB (my college's version of a "cafeteria"), DID YOU NOT HEAR ME?!"
(Apparently I didn't after the second yell).
Did another search and the Phillips had the same style with the remote (dont know why I didn't see it before). So I got those + $108 back.
I was curious about the Bang & Olufsen Earbud 3's (http://www.amazon.com/Bang-Olufsen-Headset-Microphone-Compatible/dp/B0015HROMY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top) but they're $200 and not sold in stores (or any around me) so I would have at least want to be able to return them if I didn't like it.
Anyways, thats my story, and the Phillips are great so far. I wasn't looking for anything top line, and I guess I was just putting my foot in the mainstream end of the pool, but its true: Beats are just not worth it. For me.
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